tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post451868264100444139..comments2023-09-09T14:46:37.354+02:00Comments on Julien Frisch: The light bulb ban rage - just a symptom of the EU communication disaster [updated]Julien Frischhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18167141111642456560noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-81428726666855173382009-09-03T00:51:25.835+02:002009-09-03T00:51:25.835+02:00I share your pain. I cannot count the times when I...I share your pain. I cannot count the times when I swore in front of my computer after more than half an hour spent searching for an EU document that should be found easily. Usually a google search is much more efficient than a search on the Europa server, which is a shame. What I've noticed professionals of EU affairs do is that first they spend half an hour looking for the document on the relevant EU institution website, then when they give up they go to the EU staff directory, find the number of a person who might be in charge of the issue and call her up. If you multiply that time by the number of people trying to do just the same thing, it's a massive loss of time for humanity.Eurosocialistehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03581553814650917300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-90786648174037831352009-09-01T17:24:13.464+02:002009-09-01T17:24:13.464+02:00RE the ban
commissioner Piebalgs blog comment
Re ...RE the ban<br /><a href="http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/piebalgs/lighting-the-way-to-the-future/#comment-1667" rel="nofollow">commissioner Piebalgs blog comment</a><br /><br />Re the Environment committtee minutes in comment above:<br />Yes that was all part of the committee goings on, but there was a lot more than that - actually mainly by the German participants, as it turns out, though I chose not to identify them in my description of some of the ban pathway proceedings<br /><a href="http://www.ceolas.net/#li1ax" rel="nofollow">http://www.ceolas.net/#li1ax</a>Lighthousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123172670211101092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-51946704725352719812009-08-31T22:58:20.464+02:002009-08-31T22:58:20.464+02:00Wow, Daniel, thanks for digging this up, that is m...Wow, Daniel, thanks for digging this up, that is much appreciated!<br /><br />I wasn't even aware of this "Register of Documents", and even less of the possibility to find Committee minutes.Julien Frischhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18167141111642456560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-16793517741894045672009-08-31T21:29:13.819+02:002009-08-31T21:29:13.819+02:00Check EP Register of documents
> By document ty...Check EP Register of documents<br />> By document type<br />> 1.4.5. Finalised minutes<br />after a few pages of scrolling you find the .doc<br />"Minutes of ENVI 16-17 Feb 2009"<br />in which #19 indicates: <br />"19. Ecodesign requirements for non-directional household lamps<br />ENVI/6/71901<br />- Exchange of views and vote on the draft motion for a resolution (Comitology/ regulatory procedure with scrutiny)<br />Decision:<br />Roll call vote requested<br />The draft motion for resolution was rejected: in favour: 14; against: 44; abstention: 1."<br /><br />No, it's not straightforward and Committee minutes take a long while to get approved.<br /><br />In practical terms, my number one transparency request would be for compromise amendments to be published before the vote in committee.<br /><br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-16051431823821918972009-08-31T19:07:12.958+02:002009-08-31T19:07:12.958+02:00Re my previous comment
Saw your own comment now o...Re my previous comment<br /><br />Saw your own comment now on<br />http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/piebalgs/lighting-the-way-to-the-future/<br /><br />- I wrote a long comment there, which moderators have hopefully allowed by the time you read this :-)Lighthousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123172670211101092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-67496674209627976002009-08-31T18:40:14.732+02:002009-08-31T18:40:14.732+02:00As you indicate, this is not just about light bulb...As you indicate, this is not just about light bulbs. This is about the lack of true openness in the EU bureaucracy.<br /><br />Barroso gave a speech in Barcelona lately, outlining what he sees as his priorities for action (don't bother searching, there's nothing new, or exciting). If he really wants to be President of the Commission (where the bureaucrats live), then maybe he might have made a case for more transparency?french dereknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-63242415384885231372009-08-31T14:08:02.069+02:002009-08-31T14:08:02.069+02:00Thomas Edison
Invented the lightbulb. Without it h...Thomas Edison<br />Invented the lightbulb. Without it he couldn't see how to work his phonograph.<br /><br />Incandescent<br />Mrs Edison was very, very cross at the amount of time her husband was spending in the outhouse.<br /><br />Filament<br />What Mr Edison's marriage hung by.<br /><br />Electric current<br />Early attempts to fit dried fruit with a plug failed to produce much illumination. <br /><br />Voltage<br />You have to be over 18 to buy a bulb.<br /><br />Screw fitting<br />We advise you to ignore this advice and use your hands instead.<br /><br />more at http://www.thebeginners.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-35070094713144310412009-08-31T13:35:36.519+02:002009-08-31T13:35:36.519+02:00Few people have any idea why they are forced to bu...Few people have any idea why they are forced to buy more expensive light bulbs, so they feel as alienated as the French before 1789. This is, perhaps, the subliminal message.Ralf Grahn https://www.blogger.com/profile/02156293782163802007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-11648372481843256832009-08-30T22:26:18.360+02:002009-08-30T22:26:18.360+02:00Glad more people are noticing the madness of this ...Glad more people are noticing the madness of this ban - also for environmental reasons,<br />since power stations, not light bulbs, give out the gases.<br /><br />More specifically on the politics you mention, for more on the strange EU bulb ban process inside and outside EU Parliament<br />see <br /><a href="http://www.ceolas.net/#li1ax" rel="nofollow">http://www.ceolas.net/#li1ax</a><br /><br /> - which also subseqently goes into why the ban is wrong and why the savings arguments don't hold up as supposed, with official research referencesLighthousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123172670211101092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-492174345240444269.post-1080455674154050722009-08-30T21:21:30.927+02:002009-08-30T21:21:30.927+02:00I wanted to write about the exact same topic on my...I wanted to write about the exact same topic on my blog. The EU administrations doesn't seem to understand that the light bulbs topic is (will be) one where hundreds of thousands define their opinion of the EU. People don't think about internal market or road safety standards in their daily life. But most people change or buy light bulbs every now and then.Brussels Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468436744215336356noreply@blogger.com